THIS BLOG POST SERVES AS NOTICE TO L.A. CITY ATTORNEY CARMEN TRUTANICH, to IMMEDIATELY instruct the police officers at L.A. City Hall lobby visitor desk, the FIRST thing out of their mouth, after, any warm and fuzzy greeting pleasantries is, "Where are you going?" If, "the council meeting," NO FURTHER WORDS ARE TO BE SPOKEN -- AND NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ARE TO BE ASKED...SIMPLY HAND OVER THE RED VISITOR PASS, WHICH RESTRICTS THE VISITORS ACCESS WITHIN CITY HALL TO THE COUNCIL (OR COMMITTEE) MEETING.
NO I.D. IS REQUIRED for so called, "security checks," because if any security issues are breached, there are 800 cops there, to detain the person, and at that point, ID may be demanded.
In other words, instead of the FIRST THING a cops says to someone entering city hall IS NO LONGER, "ID, PLEASE," BUT, "Where are you going?" If, "Council," keep it zipped, and the pass simply rip!
HERE'S WHAT STARTED THE LAWSUIT AVALANCHE THAN IS GONNA BURY TRUTANICH'S CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE!
NOTICE TO LOS ANGELES CITY HALL OF PENDING CIVIL LAWSUIT TO BE FILED BY ZUMA DOGG:
Upon entering City Hall, hundreds of times, over the past few years, and as recently as this week, Zuma Dogg was asked for photo identification to enter city hall for the council meeting.
Now, we all know that Zuma Dogg knows his rights, and always says to the shady and/or ignorant cop, "ID is not required." And, if the cop asks ZD for ID (as opposed to just tearing off the visitor pass and handing it to me, like some of the cops who KNOW the law, do (at least when it's ZD), the cop will tell me again, "Yes, you do..." UNTIL ZD STARTS TO THROW A KINGPIN FIT AND START GETTING PUFFY AND CALLING FOR OTHER SUPERVISORS -- at which time, a more "experienced" cop will hustle over to say, "Yeah, just give him a pass."
WE ALL KNOW ID IS NOT REQUIRED. So WHY is L.A. City Hall asking for it. It causes LONG LINES, as cops copy down all the info, that is not required.
If cops are giving ZD a hard time, and telling me, "Yes, you do," EVEN AFTER ZD SAID, "I DO NOT," IMAGINE THE CHILLING EFFECT IT HAS ON 99.999% OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP, AND BELIEVE WHAT A COP TELLS THEM AT A CITY HALL ENTRANCE.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A CITIZEN AND YOU DO NOT NEED DOCUMENTATION TO ATTEND A CITY COUNCIL MEETING!
So, IMAGINE if you show up, do not have ID (whether you NEVER had it, LOST IT -- or don't like giving the GOVERNMENT your PERSONAL ID INFO -- to speak out against them!
SO WHEN ZUMA DOGG SHOWS UP TO CITY HALL ON FRIDAY (and EVERY TIME) -- and watches from a distance...HE HOPES HE SEES NOTHING BUT PEOPLE FLYING THOUGH THE LINE -- AS COPS GET CARPLE TUNNEL SYNDROME FROM TEARING OFF VISITOR PASSES, SO QUICKLY...AND ZD DOESN'T HAVE BIPOLAR OUTBURSTS, CAUSE HE'S IN A LINE OF 20 PEOPLE, WAITING FOR COPS TO WRITE DOWN EACH AND EVERY PERSON'S PERSONAL INFO, FROM THEIR ID...
CAPISHE? Cause it's ALREADY too late...and ZD is ready to drop off the lawsuit, that is already written.
A person is not required to show identification to enter L.A. City Hall to attend the Council meetings. I, for one, do not like giving city hall (government) my personal info, like home address, to speak out against their corruption, on record (chilling effect). LOOK how HARD it was, today, to get them to give me the visitor pass, to enter city hall, for the meeting. It's MORE than anyone would be reasonably expected to endure. Imagine people who do not have ID, or also are scared to show it to the government -- prior to speaking out, when they see a line of people with a cop telling them to hand over their ID, and everyone else is doing it...because, as you can see...it takes a HELL of a lot to get Los Angeles City Hall police to comply with the law. WHY DID I HAVE TO SAY SOME MAGIC "OPEN SESAME" WORD??? A SECOND cop is called over, and tells me I have to say the words, "Brown Act," to get the visitor pass. WHY??? All I know is, I wanted to go to the meeting without showing ID, and told the cop -- and THAT is the point. The point IS...you are not required to show ID to enter the city hall for the council meeting...and you are NOT required to be an attorney to state the name of the law...ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE???? THIS WILL be pursued, in some form, at some time. MEANWHILE...STOP NOW!
On February 17, 2012, Zuma Dogg went on-the-record, to notify council, that the City Hall police asked for my identification. I the officer that I did not want to show ID. [VIDEO]
The officer asked me where I was going. I said the council meeting. She insisted for the ID again. I again replied that I did not want to show ID to attend the meeting. She called another supervising officer to the desk, who again, asked me where I was going, then asked for ID.
I again, had to explain I did not want to show ID. Then he required me to utter the words, "Brown Act," before the other officer would hand me the pass.
The point is that no ID is required to attend the council meeting. Not that the person, showing up to give public comment or observe the meeting, has to be a legal expert and know the names of the laws. The laws are merely to be followed.
This was more than anyone should be expected to reasonably endure to be admitted to the council meeting. The request alone has a chilling effect.
February 21, 2012, I once again entered Los Angeles City Hall, went through the metal check, the walked to the lobby desk for a "visitor" pass, to attend the L.A. City council meeting.
The officer (a different officer) said, "Let me guess, no ID." I said, "right." She explained, "That's fine." (As in cutting a break/no biggie/slack was being given). Then added, but, the Brown Act applies to the council meeting. This is the lobby. We don't share information. And you are not required to show ID to enter the meeting.
When I said, "That means you have to show ID to enter the meeting," there was some more back and forth. HERE IS THE ENTIRE AUDIO OF THE CONVERSATION:
NOTE: I like this officer. She's cool. Gave ZD the "express treatment." BUT, the position she was presenting, made me cranky, overall...at TRUTANICH, not her.
I see TRUTANICH'S strategy: He says, "We DON'T require ID to attend the meeting. But, due to security issues, everyone must show ID (and the police write the name and address down on paper, as in a record book). And then, they may attend the meeting without showing ID. And since the City Hall lobby doesn't share the information with Council, it's allowed.
However, not requiring ID to attend the meeting, means you don't need to have an ID. BUT, if you need an ID to enter City Hall, that means you cannot enter the council meeting.
Additionally, the process has a chilling effect on anyone who would walk up to City Hall, see a line of people showing ID to the police, or if no line, getting to the lobby desk and having a police officer ask you for ID.
The City will argue that it is required for security, but if someone breaks the law in city hall, then a cop will detain the person -- AND THAT IS THE POINT IN WHICH YOU ASK FOR ID!
So I don't think City Hall's cute little arugment will stand legal muster, which NOW, it WILL be forced to stand.
The officer told me, it was annouced in "roll call," that they WERE going to start REQUIRING ID, with no "Brown Act" proclamations in the lobby, because Brown Act does not apply to the lobby.
This already has a chilling effect on Zuma Dogg, cause I don't wanna wake up early, leave my beach area, to head all the way to Skid Row adjacent, through gridlock traffic, only to find out, TODAY, is the day the city starts enforcing that ID is required. CAUSE I AIN'T GIVING CITY HALL THE INFO (LIKE MY ADDRESS) -- TO ATTEND THE COUNCIL MEETING!
HELLO, JUDGE PREGERSON!
BOTTOM LINE: There is no way to attend the L.A. City Council meeting without showing identification, FIRST.
UPCOMING ISSUE: ONCE you SHOW ID to City Hall, do they run info for outstanding bills, collections/any business they can give the collection agency that represents itself (illegally) as the city attorney's office? Does this collection agency add additional (illegal) "administrative" fees, on top? Isn't it ILLEGAL for an outside collection agency to represent itself on the phone as "The Los Angeles City Attorney's Office," when it is just someone in a cubicle at a collection agency. DO THEY NOT HAVE TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION TO THE PERSON THEY CALL ON THE PHONE OR SEND A LETTER TO IN THE MAIL. IS THIS THE BIGGEST FRICKIN' 10,000 POUND ANVIL, that ZUMA DOGG JUST REMEMBERED HE HAD WAITING IN THE WINGS...and still needs ammo. [CITY HALL IS ALREADY FLIPPIN'!!!] #FBI, fo SHO!
